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The Real Homosexual Agenda

Posted by Mats on 13/03/2009

The Real Homosexual Agenda

A Self-Styled ‘Gay Revolutionary’ Offers a Challenge to Straight America:
“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, …wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our holy gods are handsome young men. …We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed…”

Michael Swift – Boston Gay Community News – February 15-21, 1987
(From the Traditional Values Coalition Special Report, Vol. 18., No. 10)

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7 Responses to “The Real Homosexual Agenda”

  1. Raycol said

    Michael Swift’s “challenge” was made 22 years ago. I don’t see any evidence of it having happened.

  2. bodacious boi said

    The consistent lies of religious fundamentalists always fail to justify the fear, hate and bigotry they wage against the same gender loving community. You fail to inform your readers that this angry satire that you cite as evidence of what you hope is the gay agenda, was a farce, written in 1987 by someone named Michael Swift, (who it appears hasn’t been heard from since) and this farce was preceded by the first line, which you conveniently omitted. That line is:

    “This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.”

    The larger question is why do religious fundamentalists rely on lies and distortions to justify their hatred and fear of the gay community? The answer is, that’s all that they have. If the religious right (who seem to be neither religious nor right) told the truth, they would loose all the donations that their fear and bigotry elicit.

    Shame on you for promoting yet another lie about America’s most vulnerable community!

    bodaciousboi

  3. Mats said

    Bodaciousboi,

    The consistent lies of religious fundamentalists always fail to justify the fear, hate and bigotry they wage against the same gender loving community.

    It is not “fear, hate or bigotry”to unveil the homosexual agenda.

    You fail to inform your readers that this angry satire that you cite as evidence of what you hope is the gay agenda, was a farce, written in 1987 by someone named Michael Swift, (who it appears hasn’t been heard from since) and this farce was preceded by the first line, which you conveniently omitted. That line is:
    “This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.”

    This “fantasy” echoes the dreams and wishes of homosexuals all over the globe, personified in organizations like NAMBLA.

    The larger question is why do religious fundamentalists rely on lies and distortions to justify their hatred and fear of the gay community?

    It is not a lie that the homosexual community is targetting public school kids as means to indoctrinate them in favor of their sexual “lifestyle”.

    The answer is, that’s all that they have. If the religious right (who seem to be neither religious nor right) told the truth, they would loose all the donations that their fear and bigotry elicit.

    Actually, we, from the rleigious right, do tell the truth. The problem is that the homo community can’t stand the truth.
    The medical, psychological and social evidence cleary shows that the homosexual activity is deleterious for the ones who do ti and for the society at large. We have the medical evidence, the input from atheist psychologists and social data showing what happens when a soceity legitimizes the homosexual sexual conduct.
    Homos have fear, violence and attacks on old ladies as means to show their case. Oh, and how is the church burning thing going?

    Shame on you for promoting yet another lie about America’s most vulnerable community!

    You mean, the most PROTECTED community. The most vulnurable are probably Jews and unborn babies.

  4. bodaciousboi said

    The “homosexual agenda” that you cite is a discredited creation of the religious right that until recently was a useful propaganda tool. Not very many people are fooled any more by this dishonest tactic, but obviously you are. Shame on you for being so gullible.

    Recent polls have however, revealed what gay people want in America, and It may surprise you. Job opportunities was number one, affordable housing, accessible health care, quality education for children were 2, 3 and 4, respectively. In fact the list of the gay agenda, if you will, looks no different than the list for the straight agenda. The first thing that impacts the same gender loving community on the survey comes in at number 9, hate crimes legislation and marriage equality comes in at number 12. I’m willing to bet the agenda you created is much more sensational and of course, dishonest, because if you told the truth, you’d lose your precious donations.

    Oh, and of course you brought up a wacko fringe group like NAMBLA for your propaganda. There are abhorrent fringe groups in the gay community AND in the straight community. No one is silly enough to believe that everyone is involved in these foolish and tasteless fringe groups, and thankfully their numbers are extremely minute. When you paint everyone with the same broad strokes, you elevate fringe groups like NAMBLA and give them a credibility they don’t deserve. Shame on you for that.

    No one recruits any one to be heterosexual or homosexual. Sexual orientation is not based on recruitment (I mean seriously Mats, have you given this any thought?) and people like me who have never been recruited by anyone, male or female, are not asexual. Sexual behavior with children is condemned across or culture, gay and straight, black and white, rich and poor because it victimizes children, Mats! Shame on you for spreading that lie!

    And Mats, your use of the term “lifestyle” is evidence of your hateful attitude. Got a huge news bulletin for you Mats, gay and lesbian people have lives! Don’t you dare disrespect them by dismissing their lives as a “lifestyle” Again Mats, shame on you for encouraging disrespect.

    The rest of your response is laughable. I’m a (former) researcher in human sexuality and a current researcher in public policy. When you state that “The medical, psychological and social evidence cleary shows that the homosexual activity is deleterious for the ones who do ti and for the society at large. We have the medical evidence, the input from atheist psychologists and social data showing what happens when a soceity legitimizes the homosexual sexual conduct” I KNOW YOUR LYING! Shame on you Mats! You have no credibility.

    You’re on your own with the atheist psychologist thing. Personally, I’d be very skeptical of anything said by someone who doesn’t believe in our creator.

    bodaciousboi

  5. Mats said

    The “homosexual agenda” that you cite is a discredited creation of the religious right that until recently was a useful propaganda tool.

    No, it isn’t. Isn’t it true that homosexuals go to public schools giveving lectures and presentations of the homosexual lifestyle? Aren’t theer “hate speach laws” being passed that censor the views of those who criticize homosexual behaviour? Behold their agenda, then.

    Recent polls have however, revealed what gay people want in America, and It may surprise you. Job opportunities was number one, affordable housing, accessible health care, quality education for children were 2, 3 and 4, respectively.

    That doesn’t change the fact that there aer homosexual “plans” for the future of americans and world wide. Ths has reached even the UN, where they are trying to censor nations who uphold the normal marriage (1 man + 1 woman).

    In fact the list of the gay agenda, if you will, looks no different than the list for the straight agenda.

    Except that the homosexual agenda wants to legitimize homosexual behaviour, while the normal heterosexual “agenda” wants to uphold tradicional, medical, and biological marriage.

    Oh, and of course you brought up a wacko fringe group like NAMBLA for your propaganda.

    Are they a “wacko fringe group”? Where have been the homosexual condemnation of their behavioru ahr goals? Even the communistas at ACLU “defend” their “rights”.

    There are abhorrent fringe groups in the gay community AND in the straight community.

    What makes you think that pedophily is a “fringe” within the homosexual community? Name me JUST ONE major homosexual suporter (and homosexual) who has clearly spoken against NAMBLA or against pedophily.

    JUST ONE.

    No one is silly enough to believe that everyone is involved in these foolish and tasteless fringe groups, and thankfully their numbers are extremely minute.

    If they are minute it is not because the homosexual community is trying hard to keep them small,k but because people with normal sexuality and social conscience have their eyes opened over them.

    HOmosexuals and pedophiles fly in the same flock.

    When you paint everyone with the same broad strokes, you elevate fringe groups like NAMBLA and give them a credibility they don’t deserve. Shame on you for that.

    Nonsense. Criticizing homosexual and pedophilic behaviour is nto “elevating or giving them credibility”. It’s important to stand up for evil, or it will grow.

    No one recruits any one to be heterosexual or homosexual.

    Homosexuals do with their “education” in public schools.

    Sexual orientation is not based on recruitment (I mean seriously Mats, have you given this any thought?)

    Recruiting people to the homosexual cause doesn’t mean making them homosexuals only, but being suporters of the homosexual behaviour.

    and people like me who have never been recruited by anyone, male or female, are not asexual. Sexual behavior with children is condemned across or culture, gay and straight, black and white, rich and poor because it victimizes children,

    Nonsense. It is a well common known fact that homosexual and pedophiles are very closely related. NAMBLA and other world groups who try to lower the age of consent see themselves as HOMOSEXUAL groups.

    It is YOUR problem to deal with them, not ours. We, the people who endorse normal sexuality, show that homosexuals and pedophils are recruiting peopel to their case. If you think they are a fringe NOW, imagine what will they be in a few years.

    Mats! Shame on you for spreading that lie!

    It’s not a lie. It’s fact. Homosexuals and pedophiles fly in the same flock.

    And Mats, your use of the term “lifestyle” is evidence of your hateful attitude. Got a huge news bulletin for you Mats, gay and lesbian people have lives!

    Who said otherwise? Homosexual lifestyle IS a lifestyle.

    The rest of your response is laughable. I’m a (former) researcher in human sexuality and a current researcher in public policy. When you state that “The medical, psychological and social evidence cleary shows that the homosexual activity is deleterious for the ones who do ti and for the society at large. We have the medical evidence, the input from atheist psychologists and social data showing what happens when a soceity legitimizes the homosexual sexual conduct” I KNOW YOUR LYING!

    Am I? DO you want articles by medical doctors showing the deleteriosu effect of homosexual activity?

    DO you want the testemony of an atheist psychologist who says that homosexual behaviour can be reversed with therapy?

    IF so, just ask away.

    You’re on your own with the atheist psychologist thing. Personally, I’d be very skeptical of anything said by someone who doesn’t believe in our creator.

    haha
    So if a Christian psychologist says that homosexual is bad, you call him a “far right”, or “homophobic” or whatever. When an atheist psychologist says that SAME THING, you discard him because he “doesn’t believe in our creator”: I don’t know who is your “creator”, but he is not the Lord Jesus Christ, who said that marriage is one man and one woman (Matthew 19:4).

  6. bodacious boi said

    Your message of hate is clouding your thinking Mats. Someone said that if you want to create an agnostic, teach them Christian history. Christian fundamentalists like you are proving that you can do the same thing by looking at the present. The racism, sexism and homophobia inherent in fundamentalists’ belief makes it impossible for you to speak for our creator, and even less likely that the creator of all people, even gay people, has anything to do with you. Your insistence on dishonesty, fear, bigotry and hate, is devoid of Gods love, devoid of Gods grace and devoid of Gods compassion for his creations.

    Bodacious boi

  7. Mats said

    Hello.

    Your message of hate is clouding your thinking Mats.

    There’s nothing hateful in being against the legitimation of a sexual practice,

    Someone said that if you want to create an agnostic, teach them Christian history.

    If that is so, why is it that public schools try their best to censor Christian history?

    Christian fundamentalists like you are proving that you can do the same thing by looking at the present. The racism, sexism and homophobia

    Why do you equate race (which is immutable) sex (the same) with being homosexual acts, which can be stopped?
    A black lesbian woman can’t stop being black, and can’t stop being a woman, BUT she can stop comitting homosexual acts.
    Why do you equaet behaviour with biological features?

    inherent in fundamentalists’ belief makes it impossible for you to speak for our creator,

    I don’t know who is your “creator”, but the Lord Jesus Christ says in His Book that homosexuality is a sin. was the Lord Jesus wrong?

    and even less likely that the creator of all people, even gay people, has anything to do with you.

    God created everyone, including gays and pedophiles. However, the fact that He made them doesn’t mean He endorses their behaviour.

    Your insistence on dishonesty, fear, bigotry and hate, is devoid of Gods love, devoid of Gods grace and devoid of Gods compassion for his creations.

    I have compassion for the souls who are going to hell for the sin of homosexuality. Don’t you?

    I have compassion for the people who fight to leave the homosexual activity, but al they ear is that beign gay is good, and that there’s nothign wrong in a man having sex with another man.

    For those, I have real compassion.

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